Wednesday, March 19, 2008

Why Iraq? Five Years Later...

From Investors Business Daily here:

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." — Sen. Ted Kennedy, on Sept. 27, 2002.
"It is clear . . . that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." — Sen. Hil-lary Clinton, Oct. 10, 2002.
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." — Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.
We could go on and on. Others said similar things. Suffice to say, support at the time for "doing something" about Iraq was wide and deep. They even egged Bush on, urging him to get tough. Then, in the fall of 2002, Congress authorized Bush to go to war.
Only later, in late 2003 and 2004, as polls showed public support waning, did many of those same prominent politicians who once enthusiastically stumped for war and even voted for it in Congress suddenly do an about-face. It stands as one of the most shameful political turnabouts in U.S. history.
Opponents suddenly claimed the war was a sham, that they were fooled into supporting it by cooked intelligence, that we should have never removed Saddam, that Iraqis were better off with him in power than with us as occupiers.
The war in Iraq, in short, simply wasn't worth it. But they were wrong on all counts.

continuing...

Iraq is today a growing economy again. From 2002 through 2006, the most recent year for which data are available, per capita GDP in dollars jumped 110%.
Before the war, there were some 833,000 people with telephones. Today, there's 9.8 million. Fewer than 5,000 people were on the Internet during Saddam's rein of terror; today, it's a quarter million.
There were no private TV stations under Saddam; today Iraq has more than 50. There are at least 260 independent newspapers and magazines in Iraq, vs. none under Saddam. Just 1.5 million cars were registered before the war; by 2005, that had hit 3.1 million.
In short, by almost any objective measure one might choose, Iraqis are today much better off than they were under Saddam. Those that deny this are, frankly, deluded.
Better still, Saddam's jackbooted minions no longer pull people screaming out of their homes for torture sessions and murder.
By some estimates, an average of 50,000 people died each year from Saddam's campaigns of genocide, ethnic cleansing and political murder. Last year, the peak of the surge, there were 18,000 civilian deaths — mostly by terrorists.
Today, Iraq's nascent democracy, though imperfect, seems solid. A recent look at the Index of Political Freedom shows Iraq ranking as the fourth-freest country in the Mideast, out of 20. Those who term the war a "failure" need to define that term.
Since the surge began a year ago, nearly every indicator of violence in the country is down, and down sharply: civilian fatalities, off 80% from the peak; enemy attacks, off 40%; bombings, off 81%.
Yes, U.S. fatalities are nearing 4,000. And every death of every brave soldier is a tragedy. But we lost more soldiers on D-Day.
In 2007 — widely reported by the media last summer as the "worst" yet during the war — 901 American troops lost their lives. By comparison, during the Clinton administration, an average of 938 American soldiers died each year in the military. The notion that we've suffered unconscionable troop losses is false and misleading. This is the most bloodless war in history.
So far, we've spent about $500 billion on the war — less than 1% of our GDP over the past five years. Yet with that money, we've perhaps recast the history of the Mideast, giving its people a chance to throw off the shackles of tyranny and to live in peaceful democracies. We've bashed al-Qaida severely, killing key leaders and demoralizing the terrorist group's followers.

Read all of it here.

18 comments:

  1. during the Clinton administration, an average of 938 American soldiers died each year in the military

    I find this difficult to believe.
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  2. Eileen, when politicians cut the Military as severe as the Clinton's and Carter did, peacetime accidents increase.

    Many have made a big deal out of hte fact that the deaths were mostly due to accidents during those two administrations and under Bush it was due to hostilities.

    To me, dead is dead, how isn't that important.

    Besides that, more than a few deaths currently listed under the numbers lauded by the anti-war left include accidents in Iraq and elsewhere.
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  3. Even Bill Buckley sees the Iraq War as a total failure. I met him once when he came to speak at my University. He was no knee-jerk and certainly no fool. As for the Botox Bimbo and Water Lew, well, I think Bill Buckley would agree that they certainly are.

    Iraq War: A colossal failure
    SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER EDITORIAL BOARD


    Nearly five years into a war that might drag on for decades, Vice President Dick Cheney visited Iraq and declared, "If you look back on those five years, it has been a difficult, challenging but nonetheless successful endeavor." Really, Mr. Vice President? How so?

    About 4,000 American troops have died since our baseless invasion of Iraq, and the Department of Veterans Affairs is overwhelmed by the sheer volume and dire condition of wounded soldiers who manage to return alive.

    Conservative estimates hold that nearly 80,000 Iraqi civilians have died, but a study published in 2006, which included those who have died of disease and other issues related to the war, indicated that 650,000 Iraqis had perished. About 2 million of the country's population has been internally displaced while 2.5 million have left Iraq.

    Our presence in Iraq has hindered our ability to fight the good fight in Afghanistan and the $12 billion-per-month costs of remaining in Iraq have no doubt left our government in a tough spot in dealing with our current economic woes.

    On Monday, when Cheney did his victory lap/public relations tour around Baghdad, the Los Angeles Times reported 52 Iraqis and two U.S. soldiers died as a result of bombs and mortars that wounded more than 80 people. Perhaps the vice president didn't have the chance to visit with the families of the six children who were also killed that day.

    We could think of a million words to describe the war but it takes a twisted mind to see it as a "successful endeavor."


    It Didn’t Work

    William F. Buckley

    "I can tell you the main reason behind all our woes — it is America." The New York Times reporter is quoting the complaint of a clothing merchant in a Sunni stronghold in Iraq. "Everything that is going on between Sunni and Shiites, the troublemaker in the middle is America."


    One can't doubt that the American objective in Iraq has failed. The same edition of the paper quotes a fellow of the American Enterprise Institute. Mr. Reuel Marc Gerecht backed the American intervention. He now speaks of the bombing of the especially sacred Shiite mosque in Samara and what that has precipitated in the way of revenge. He concludes that “The bombing has completely demolished” what was being attempted — to bring Sunnis into the defense and interior ministries.

    Our mission has failed because Iraqi animosities have proved uncontainable by an invading army of 130,000 Americans. The great human reserves that call for civil life haven't proved strong enough. No doubt they are latently there, but they have not been able to contend against the ice men who move about in the shadows with bombs and grenades and pistols.

    The Iraqis we hear about are first indignant, and then infuriated, that Americans aren't on the scene to protect them and to punish the aggressors. And so they join the clothing merchant who says that everything is the fault of the Americans.

    The Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, elucidates on the complaint against Americans. It is not only that the invaders are American, it is that they are "Zionists." It would not be surprising to learn from an anonymously cited American soldier that he can understand why Saddam Hussein was needed to keep the Sunnis and the Shiites from each others' throats.

    A problem for American policymakers — for President Bush, ultimately — is to cope with the postulates and decide how to proceed.

    One of these postulates, from the beginning, was that the Iraqi people, whatever their tribal differences, would suspend internal divisions in order to get on with life in a political structure that guaranteed them religious freedom.

    The accompanying postulate was that the invading American army would succeed in training Iraqi soldiers and policymkers to cope with insurgents bent on violence.

    This last did not happen. And the administration has, now, to cope with failure. It can defend itself historically, standing by the inherent reasonableness of the postulates. After all, they govern our policies in Latin America, in Africa, and in much of Asia. The failure in Iraq does not force us to generalize that violence and antidemocratic movements always prevail. It does call on us to adjust to the question, What do we do when we see that the postulates do not prevail — in the absence of interventionist measures (we used these against Hirohito and Hitler) which we simply are not prepared to take? It is healthier for the disillusioned American to concede that in one theater in the Mideast, the postulates didn't work. The alternative would be to abandon the postulates. To do that would be to register a kind of philosophical despair. The killer insurgents are not entitled to blow up the shrine of American idealism.

    Mr. Bush has a very difficult internal problem here because to make the kind of concession that is strategically appropriate requires a mitigation of policies he has several times affirmed in high-flown pronouncements. His challenge is to persuade himself that he can submit to a historical reality without forswearing basic commitments in foreign policy.

    He will certainly face the current development as military leaders are expected to do: They are called upon to acknowledge a tactical setback, but to insist on the survival of strategic policies.

    Yes, but within their own counsels, different plans have to be made. And the kernel here is the acknowledgment of defeat.

    (c) 2006 Universal Press Syndicate
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  4. The majority of Americans Agree for once.

    Poll: Iraq war 'a total failure'

    Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:05:38
    New polls suggest that US citizens see the country's current economic woes in the Iraq war and consider it to be 'a total failure'.

    The majority, surveyed for the CNN/Opinion Research poll, said war spending is at least partly to blame for growing unemployment and slowing the economy, while only 28 percent see no link between the economy and the war.

    The war continues to be unpopular as only 32 percent of respondents support the Iraq effort and 66 percent oppose it, the poll found.

    Other surveys published on The Washington Post, The USA Today and SN (Short News .com) show that that the majority of Americans judge the US invasion of Iraq as 'a total failure' which did 'not worth fighting' and 'set timetable for withdrawal.'

    Two economists -- Nobel Prize-winner Joseph Stiglitz of Columbia University and Linda Bilmes of Harvard -- have estimated the total cost of the war will amount to three trillion dollars and predicted a major downturn if the war continues.

    Almost 4,000 Americans have died in Iraq since the outbreak of war in 2003.
    Nearly 160,000 US troops remain in Iraq, and the war has cost US taxpayers about $600 billion, according to the House Budget Committee.
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  5. i don't know about you, but i wouldn't want to live there.
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  6. Eileen,
    I've blogged the numbers before. IT's true. More soldiers died on Clinton's watch than died in combat in Iraq. That's partially because training takes lives and, as Lew pointed out, when you cut back, as Clinton did, you cut back on experienced troops.
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  7. Also, Abel, stop making fun of that other guy on the other station. Besides, botox rocks and so does Dr. Waldorf.
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  8. And after five years, McCain still does not know the difference between Shiite and Sunni. Obviously a worthy successory of Bush.
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  9. I missed the story about McCain's not knowing the difference. Where is it? Just leave the link in the comments. Thanks.
    Victoria
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  10. I don't see how we can expect McCain to lead us out of this quagmire, if he cannot even correctly identify the players. Somehow I was expecting more competence from McCain than we got from the Bush administration.
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  11. He's almost as bad as the congressional democratic committee head who didn't know what affiliation al qaeda was.
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  12. Well actually Iran has been providing insurgents with weapons and al qaeda has been the recipient of the boom booms.
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  13. McCain made the same misstatement to nationally syndicated radio host Hugh Hewitt during a March 17 interview, saying, "As you know, there are Al Qaeda operatives that are taken back into Iran, given training as leaders, and they're moving back into Iraq."

    So this was not a one-time slip. Had Clinton or Obama done something like this, this would have been played on a loop, over and over, and would have absolutely hurt them politically.
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  14. Over the past two days, John McCain has repeatedly made the same foreign policy gaffe, confusing Sunnis and Shiites and the relationship between Iran and Al Qaeda. While on a radio show, McCain suggested Iran was training Al Qaeda, and later repeated the claim multiple times in Israel. In the most publicized of those incidents, Senator Joe Lieberman is seen (and heard) correcting McCain, a scene Keith Olbermann referred to as a possible "senior moment." And despite being ridiculed by the media about those mistakes on Wednesday, the McCain campaign made the same mistake, yet again on Thursday, this time in a statement marking the war's fifth anniversary.

    His error was not simply a misstatement; its repetition speaks for itself. It was, instead, evidence of a fundamental misunderstanding of Middle East politics. For a man who stakes his credibility on military affairs, to be unaware of the difference between Sunni and Shiite is unthinkable. This is not an issue of complexity or of disagreement and debate; it is as basic as knowing the difference between the two sides of this war. More importantly, McCain's ignorance seems to suggest an extremely limited comprehension of the politics of the entire region. Iran and Iraq are predominantly Shiite, but Shiites make up only 15% of the Muslim world. Might knowing that context help a president understand Iran's political objectives more clearly? Might knowing that fact help inform our decision making throughout the entire region, including Iraq? How can a man who doesn't understand a conflict help to resolve it?

    It's not a Grandpa Problem; it's a Grandpa Defense. Basically, he can say anything and if it's dumb, it's just because he's old. By contrast, Clinton and Obama are middle-aged and articulate. If either of them misspeak, it's because they're lying. Bush does the same thing with his Moron Defense. In 2004, Bush committed as many, if not more, gaffes than Kerry, but Bush got away with his while Kerry was labeled a flip-flopper and a liar. The American people are much more forgiving to senility and idiocy than they are to lying, real or perceived.
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  15. 1. Our whole reason for going to Iraqwas a lie. There were no WMD's and U.N. Sanctions were working.

    2. We are not the worlds police. The U.N. wouldn't support it and we had no right to go alone. (Oh please...)

    3. The war was poorly executed and failed to stop a fledgling insurgency in its early stages. (Bush was too busy playing fighter pilot)

    4. By all accounts the surge is not working. 1/3 of the country is either dead or in exile. Violence continues, and the "democratic" puppet government we installed can't get along.

    5. On one hand your right... we made this mess so we have to stay and clean it up. But the fact is were not doing anything to build schools or improve services, and our prescence is not making them more safe. Our prescence is only inciting resentment. How is our prescenc going to stop their civil war?

    6. They have an army. We trained them. We can get out of the country, while continuing to support them militarily.
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  16. Abel mentioned William F. Buckley in his diatribe against the Iraq War. Buckley also opposed the VietNam War.
    And he went on to be one of the most prolific conservative writers in the country.
    At one time he ran for Mayor of NYC and lost. But he did say during his campaign that if he won the election, he would demand a recount.

    This is what Saint B. Hussein Obama ought to do in the unlikely event that he actually gets elected president - demand a recount.

    Obama is no more qualified to be president than I am, or any of the other posters on this blog. He rants and raves about all the changes needed by this country, but he has yet to say how he would solve any of the problems.

    He is the political version of a Drugstore Cowboy - - all belt buckle but no horse.
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  17. He has plans. Do your research. Atttend a rally. Check his web site. Call his campaign office. I've heard that rederick over and over again and its all based on lack of insight.
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